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What are the factory updates for the 512 TR?

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by silvergts1998, Dec 3, 2007.

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  1. 348SStb

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  2. ggetz

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    Nope, no BS, as evidenced by the remainder of this thread and my other post of this evening. As I note in the more recent thread, Ferrari did not "replace unbroken tranny components;" I replaced them as part of an engine-out maintenance after experiencing what turned out to be synchro problems. I have also spent a great deal over the past 14 years getting and keeping the car correct and in concours/Coppa Bella condition.

    Best,

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  3. ggetz

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    I finally crawled under the back of my 512TR to check on the tranny number. For those of you who have been following this thread, there's a great elaboration higher up that includes info from the Ferrari service bulletins, and specifies which updates were on which cars. The good news:

    1. All cars above motor number 31108 have the heavier prop shaft from clutch to main transmission. My motor is number 33671
    2. All cars with transmissions 1513 and above have the forged differential casing and the upgraded differential ring, pinion, dowels, and bolts. Mine is (drum roll, please) number 1514!

    So, made it by the hair of my chinny-chin-chin, as they say. I also have the synchro and bearing updates, including parts 156842, 153068, 106040, 139555, 150628, 126234, and 155694, installed 2003 as part of an engine-out maintenance.

    Car is still for sale (see FerrariAds), so I'm pleased to be able to verify the above info.

    Best,

    Gary
     
  4. bob348

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    Your car is #96401 right ?
    Mine is #96432, so, i think that mine has also all the upgrade...
     
  5. bob348

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    OK, I just checked my numbers ;)

    Vin: #96432
    Engine: #33727
    Gearbox:#1530
     
  6. ggetz

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    Gearbox 1530 definitely puts you on the "good" side of 1513. Yours is a '94 Euro model with ABS, correct? Looks as if mine was likely very close to the end of '93 production.

    Best,

    Gary
     
  7. bob348

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    My car was delivred to her first owner in March 93.
    Its a 93 euro abs version.
     
  8. AHudson

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    I'm bringing this thread back from the archives due to a recent inquiry about 'updates that made the 512TR'.

    My car, for reference, is VIN 98645.

    The 'good' transmission upgrades are supposed to start at trans #1513. I looked under my car and see TWO stamped numbers on the left (drivers) side lower area that have "24659" and under that, on a clear boss "N2108".

    Can anyone confirm that I a) have located the right numbers at all and b) if so, which is THE number?

    Thanks guys.
     
  9. ggetz

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    It's been a while since I looked at mine prior to selling the car, but if memory serves the transmission number is almost dead center on the car, just forward of the lower edge of the rear bumper. My memory may be a bit faulty on this, but I know that I didn't have to jack the car up -- I just crawled under the rear edge of the car with my flashlight, looked up, and there it was!

    I'm away from home right now, but if it's useful to you I think that I took some photos of the tranny number and have them stored on my home computer. Will be home a week from tonight -- let me know if I should try to dig 'em out and post them.

    Best,

    Gary
     
  10. Melvok

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    #35 Melvok, Sep 3, 2009
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    Sorry, have no way to get under the 1992-512TR... just have one pic of rear-end...

    Can we see anything on these number... or... top number: 124859, lower: N263.

    Who helps me out ? Do we look at the right place ?


    Adams, there must be a ONE before your stamped number, lik mine....I think it should be: 124659
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  11. AHudson

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    I think you're right Mel. Your '1' is very faint, and mine probably is also.

    So the question is, WHICH numbers are we to look for?

    And Gary, your info helps, so I'll go under there again tonight to look more centrally. Thanks. ANY pics if you have them would be immensely helpful.
     
  12. Melvok

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    Adams, are you stuck under the car.... :-O) ?
     
  13. AHudson

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    GLAD YOU SHOWED UP - -GET ME OUTA HERE!

    I actually did go and look, I do indeed have the '1' preceeding the sequence just like yours, but saw no other groups of numbers. So, is THAT our transaxle number?
     
  14. Melvok

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    I have no clue; so let's wait for an answer of our Gurus......... or al least GGETZ...
     
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    124859 COMPLESSIVO CAMBIO-DIFFER.-COP.OLIO
     
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    I'm sorry, not able to fully translate. I get "complete gearbox-differential" and "oil". Does this mean that number is AFTER the differential change?
     
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    #42 Melvok, Sep 10, 2009
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    I also don't get it..... Bob, please let us know !

    What can you tell us abot Adams gearbox with # 124659 and mine with # 124859....

    Or can you find somewhere when the changes were made and at which gearbox numbers ...?
     
  18. bob348

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    I will check, but I think these are not the number of the gearbox.
    Should be a 4 digit number.
    The 6 digit number is only a part number.

    What are you vin number ?

    Mine is #96432 and my gear box is 1530
    The first gearbox wich was upgraded was 1513...

    ggetz have vin 96401 (i think) and gearbox 1514...

    So if your vin are above 96401, you should have the upgraded gearbox...
     
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    DIND DING DING, we have a winner! My vin is 98645. Mel? Do you have a winning ticket too?

    Still don't know where 'the' number is. Determined to find it. Mel, one of us misread our part numbers apparently, and since you're in another country, I'm saying its you. ;)

    If it turns out to be me, I'm not saying anything.
     
  20. Melvok

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    #45 Melvok, Sep 14, 2009
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    Car is of 1992; my VIN = 92545 so how about that........?

    How can we misread numbers... I posted a photo of it or am I mistaken...?
     
  21. ggetz

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    #46 ggetz, Sep 14, 2009
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    Hi all -- I'm back home and was able to dig out my photos of the gearbox number on my 512TR. You can see the location of the number in this photo: there's a small vertical area on the rear-facing bottom left corner of the 'box, next to the left exhaust (catalytic converter?). You can see this area without jacking the car -- just stick your head under there with a flashlight, and it should be visible.

    Here's my lucky number, 1514:

    Hope that helps!

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  22. ggetz

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    Mel -- went back in the thread, and it looks as if you have gearbox 263 -- so the running improvements that started at 'box 1513 aren't in there unless added later.
     
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    #48 Melvok, Sep 14, 2009
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    Sniff,sniff.... old gearbox also...but lucky: no trouble yet !

    What year is your F ?

    And how do we explain @ a clear boss "N2108" @ on Adams gearbox ? Newer than 1513/1514 ?
     
  24. ggetz

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    My car was (sold it last year, now own an '07 599, which is about the only car worthy of replacing the 512, IMHO) a '93.

    Adam's box is definitely newer (higher) than 1513, which makes sense given his 98xxx serial number (mine was 96401).

    Best,

    Gary
     
  25. bob348

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    So here we have:

    Mel: 92545 - box 263 - OLD

    Ggetz: 96401 - box 1514 - NEW
    Bob: 96432 - box 1530 - NEW
    Adam: 98645 - box 2108 - NEW
     

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