What Is a Reasonable Price Over Sticker To Pay For Pista?

Imagine what will happen to the Pilota cars if they ever get sold...

 

Is that really a shock?

 

Not to me, no.


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Could anybody tell what was the price for the 70th anniversary cars?
There are some for sale for relatively high prices (but they don't seem to move btw), and I'm not sure where are the asked prices compared to the initial prices - although I doubt they let any high margin for profit.

 

My friend has a 70th F12, he said he won’t sell it because he’ll lose too much $.
Another buddy bought TDF over a year ago for $1.4.
They are now moving around $900k.



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Limited to 350 cars these 70th anniversary cars, going to selected customers, were supposed to be cash making bargains for the happy buyers - illustrated by the auction price of the "green jewel". I never bought this story and that's one of the reasons I'm skeptical about the future values for Pista.

 

The 70th Cali T probably is the biggest loser (in depreciation terms).

 

Interesting, appreciate the insight. I'd like to know where moving at $900 as I am a long term buyer near these prices, if real.

Regarding 70th anniversary, I was asked to buy one in order to get a Pista and said no. I checked in with two different dealers to see how these cars typically fare and it was a huge loser. And, they are fuglier than the 812's rear end!

 

Theres a few k mile one listed at one of the dealers if u search for pre owned at ferrari.com in the usa.


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I know of a TDF that sold recently for 1.1+. I have not seen nor heard of one selling for around $900k. Most of the owners of these won't need to sell and will hold firm if the price softens. Like ocean front real estate...economy doesn't matter. Always buyers for truly special things. And yes I would love to have a TDF...

 

There is at least one F12 TDF for sale in Germany at an asked price of EUR 833K, which is USD 935K - that's not far...

 

Miles matter above everything else.


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5,000 km, i.e. 3,100 miles for the one I quoted - hardly high mileage, allthough I'm aware some tdf never moved a wheel.

 

Well considering 15k is high miles for an f40 or f50, 3k is a ton of mikes for tdf.


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Below posting was in the classified sections. It was sold shortly afterwards. Another member posted pics of the TDF that he just purchased (same car based on pictures, location). His comment was that he bought it way below the asking price.

For Sale: 2017 Ferrari TDF, $673,000 build.
1496 miles
Grigio Alloy
TDF Stripe
Tons of Blue Carbon fiber.
No accidents, no tracking.
Asking $990,000.

Factory Options Include: Apple Car Play, AFS System, Blue Medio Alcantara Boot Carpet, Boot Trim, Inner Seat Trim, Central Tunnel and Headliner. Blue Medio Leather Soft Luggage Bags, Yellow Brake Calipers, Gloss Blue Exterior Carbon includes Carbon Fiber Filter Box, Carbon Fiber Fog Lamp, Engine Covers, Carbon Fiber Headlight Bucket, Carbon Fiber Underdoor Cover. Matte Blue Carbon Fiber Options include Carbon Fiber Dash, Carbon Fiber Floor Plates, Carbon Fiber Rear Shelf, Carbon Fiber Rear Bench Trim. Pelle Gialla Inner Details. Cinture Giallo Seat Belts, Ferrari Telemetry, Suspension Lifter, Heat Insulating Windshield, Radio/Nav System with Bluetooth, Front and Rear Cameras, Passenger Display, Racing Stripe, Carbon Fiber Racing Seats, High Power HIFI System, and track inner cams kit.

 

Man, that's a lot of coin for a TDF. Why not just buy a 918 Spyder at that kind of money?

 

Most TDF's are selling way below asking prices. I'm in the market for one that's why I know.

No TDF's selling for above $1.1m recently unless it's a fantastic TM car with delivery miles.
Regular safe specs are being sold at $900k range.
Lots of try-hard specs in the market which is begging to sell.

For the TDF market at the moment, I do notice a good spec car worth easily $100-300k more than the poor spec ones.

 

In Europe, there are some wide data points:

Marcel reported this a couple of months ago

And this sold for €1.2million / $1.35 million.with 1500 miles, and a nice interior.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/pa19/paris/lots/r0092-2017-ferrari-f12tdf/742385


However, most of the sold prices I have heard are at the lower end - around 750k euros for 1500 miles.

Europe seems usually more relaxed about miles than the US, but the large number of delivery mile cars around makes the first few thousand miles very expensive!

Europe market to a downward lurch a few months ago, and the US seems to be catching up now.

Back to Pista?

 

I enjoyed driving the 918s, but a few things for me: 1) it's a $1.4+M car, 2) I am not enamored with the looks outside nor the same old 911 interior, 3) the raw nature of the TDF is very appealing (I think the 918 becomes yesterday's news going forward with so many as-capable if not more than capable cars on horizon).

I also think the TDF is insanely sexy looking and will stand the test of time like a classic ferrari does now.

 

I'll assume that many buyers/owners of TDF's have a lot of other high value cars already or had them. (Every person I know who had a TDF allocation in my area has cars that are more expensive then the TDF (even the current secondary market price of $900K plus)

 

+1
Though the tdF build spec has to be a good one; as Tim noted some of the later builds were a little wild. Perhaps not in a good way either...

 

Two of the online advertised TDFs were offered publicly at 1.2ish and recently reduced into the 900k range per email. I had the titanio one under contract at 975, which ultimately went to auction and netted the seller a 800 figure. I think the true selling price is firmly sub 1MM.

ETA: if you want one, get a broker, who will bring you all the "off market" cars. I probably saw as many off market as I did on. All sub 1.1MM.

 

What were the miles on the titanium?


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280 or so IIRC.

 

Yep i remember that one


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