What sports cars still have hydraulic steering?

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  1. Robb

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    What other sports cars sold New have hydraulic steering?

    What recent cars still had it that you'd consider buying on the used front?
    What years did they switch Over?

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    Not sure I understand. Are you asking which exotic cars have electric steering? The list will much much smaller if that's the case.
     
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    No. I'm asking which sports cars have not switched to electric steering?

    I understand porsche is now all electric steering, the BMW m cars...

    My wife's Mercedes have electric steering and I think it sucks ass...

    So I'm trying to figure out which cars still have old fashioned hydraulic steering (for best feel) and have not switched to electric.

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    Mclarens do I believe.
     
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    Great. That's what I am trying to learn. Thanks for the info.

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    So the older R8 in v8 and v10 uses a conventional hydraulic steering set up.

    The brand new R8 has gone electric... booooooo.

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    #8 Robb, Jun 18, 2017
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    The 458 uses conventional hydraulic steering along with the Lamborghini aventador.

    The new Ferrari 812 and California's have gone electric.
    The Aston DB11 has gone electric / electronic.

    I am answering my own question somewhat by searching, but hope others can fill in the gaps.

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    Some of us would submit that real sports cars do not have power steering of any type. The cars mentioned so far are GT cars, or perhaps exotics, but they're not sports cars by my definition.
     
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    Robb, I believe McLaren 650S and 570S still use hydraulic setups.
     
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    Sounds good.

    I had a 328 and also liked the lack of power steering.

    So what "real sports cars" match your definition then with manual steering that are new today?

    Alfa 4c has no power steering, right?
    What else that is new?

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    Alfa 4c: No power steering! :)

    So, what's the big deal with no power steering?

    Well, I love how in the turns the steering wheel is fighting back against you. You can feel the grip of the tires and it takes some physical effort to make the turn because of it. You are not removed from the tires. You get feedback as to how the car is gripping in the front.

    You don't get that today.

    I had a Corvette C7 with electric power steering. I hated it. Not only was there no feedback but it was completely artificial -- like some software geek decided how he thought a car should steer.

    The C7 actually work in reverse of what a real car does. At slow speeds its easy to turn, at high speeds it's more difficult. WTF???? That's great for grandpa driving down main street but it makes no sense if you want to use it in anything involving hard driving. The steering feel is all over the place and in inverse order to what your brain is used to
     
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    Pretty sad when your 1984 Oldsmobile has better steering than a new BMW.
     
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    AFAIK, my Lotus Exige has no power assist. And I have never driven any street car on the track that better communicated what the front tires were doing. The 4C may be similar.
     
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    The Lotus Elise/Exige have manual steering with no hydraulic assist. The Evora has hydraulic steering.
     

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