Price list I've seen has $308 base but of course, that could change. Options are mostly usual pricings.
I just placed a deposit on mine today in scottsdale and the print out with options shows 312k as base price could dealer “change” the base price ?
Yes. The base price has already increased from the original price sheet. Also the price you got more than likely won’t be the final price. You will know the final price when the car arrives. More than likely when the car goes into production in Q4 of this year the price will have another increase. (This could include options as well) It should even say that on your deposit paperwork.
Is hot vee really that problematic? Surely things get hot within the vee, but at least the heat rises directly up to the engine cover from where it can be channeled out. In cold vee the exhausts heat also the engine block above. I assume that is not optimal either. In addition, isn't it better also in cold vee configuration to locate the turbos as high as possible to prevent heating up the whole engine bay?
The rear-mid engine placement is already difficult for cooling, with the turbos directly on top of the engine I wonder what Ferrari has done, if anything, to ventilate the heat, merely venting up is insufficient as there is essentially no air flow to aid cooling. It appears there is a metal heat shield on part of the engine bonnet to help prevent the bonnet melting/deforming (so they recognize the heat situation created by the hot-vee that required no such remedy for their previous turbo designs). For instance, MB(117) has fans to help move the heat away, and a special blanket can help...aftermarket. To me, this is Ferrari's first attempt at a hot-vee rear-mid-engine, did they get the cooling right? If not, we will find out... Image Unavailable, Please Login
Ferrari is a stickler for following heritage...is it really a Ferrari if there is no risk of the car catching on fire?
I assume you have noticed how the roofline drops and directs airflow under the roof spoiler? Image Unavailable, Please Login The picture below does not show airflow route correctly (as it really goes under the roof spoiler, not above it), but the end result is still the same, i.e. the airflow creates suction effect to ventilate hot air out from the engine cover. Image Unavailable, Please Login The hot-v might even have something to do why this car doesn't have a typical rear window design used in recent Ferrari models.
And the reason appears to be that it is actually beneficial to run turbos hot and have them separated from the rest of the engine bay which should be kept as cool as possible. https://www.carthrottle.com/post/what-is-a-hot-v-turbo-engine-layout-and-what-benefits-does-it-have/
I’m going to leave these here from a car that has been “driven”…. Image Unavailable, Please Login View attachment 3264599
It drives like a higher performance F8. Smaller ….. Lighter….. and at no time does it feel like its lacking power… Throttle response is immediate, if not a little premature. I don’t mean that in a bad way just that if you ask for it the driveline is going to deliver! Cold start exhaust note is deep almost baritone in frequency. Once it reaches operating temperature and is sitting at idle it is relatively muted. In no stretch of the imagination is it an actual comparison, but it feels an awful lot like a supercharged lotus exige… on steroids! ( with a significantly nicer interior ! ) I imagine once the dynamic demonstrators hit the Dealerships, others will chime in. S
assume that reflects full power from the electric motor setting...would be keen to hear about the driving dynamics when purely use ICE
That doesn't look too good. What material is currently being used for turbo covers? I assume they need some corrective actions here.
There have been some developments since the upper picture which contains grilles around the Ferrari text logo. The lower picture is from a presentation car and there are no holes besides the actual Ferrari texture anymore. Also, in the lower picture the turbo covers are not so tightly sealed towards the exhausts. It is hard to tell if the material has changed as well, although in the lower pic the cover has more robust appearance. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Looks like they have not figured out the heat dissipation issue ...what else is happening that we cannot see? I hope those covers are pure aluminum, melting point about 1220F(660C), they best make them of titanium...(if not all aluminum and are instead stainless steel, an unbelievable heat load is happening) https://www.onlinemetals.com/en/melting-points but, if that is all aluminum, that means the temperature must be 1200F + (depending on atmospheric conditions, etc), that's just like putting the headers on top of the engine... hot-vee, will it be a hot-mess ??
Deformed turbo heat shields are obviously not from production model so hard to tell if they have already fixed the issue. Exhaust manifolds are made from Inconel, so that is at least one material which should do fine as a heat shield. Hottest areas reside above turbos, so obviously the heat shields are first to suffer. However, I am sure that Ferrari has enough expertise to fix possible heat issues before going to production.