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Where are all the PF Coupes ?

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  1. djaffrey

    djaffrey Formula Junior

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    Been looking for a while now since I missed out on one (maybe three years) to someone who logs on here occassionally.

    Anyone know of a car (coupe not conv) for sale anywhere ?

    Cheers,

    Darren.
     
  2. rob lay

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    Parted to keep other Ferraris going or to increase the number of Ferraris that look like a 250 GTO or TR or... :rolleyes:

    Talking about Greg512TR?
     
  3. djaffrey

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    Such a shame that these lovely things get parted out to create not such lovely things.

    You know either they is or they ain't..and recreations ain't.
     
  4. El Wayne

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    None in the US, that's for sure.
     
  5. Bryanp

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    A couple of years ago, Kurt Vandenberg, the keeper of the PF Coupe registry, opined to me that his best guess for the number of PF Coupes remaining as PF Coupes was about 150 to 175 - or about only half that were made. For too many years they occupied that unforgiving market segment that made them not valuable enough to warrant spending the required $$ on to restore - so they continue for the most part to sit where they've been sitting.
     
  6. Glassman

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    Looks like one of the greatest Ferrari sleepers of all time is coming to life.
     
  7. dretceterini

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    Open for disussion..

    If you were going to buy a "sleeper", would you buy a 250GTE or a PF coupe?? The GTE has to be cheaper....at least before restoration costs....


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  8. El Wayne

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    My personal choice would be a PF coupe due to:

    1. Rarity
    2. 2 seats
    3. 1950s vs 1960s styling
     
  9. Glassman

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    The PF coupe is a GT car. The GTE is a 2+2 car. The PF coupe is approaching the price range where restoration costs are starting to make sense. Wayne whats the newest price high, 125,000 ?
    And beware of the Giant Sting Ray Bats!!!
     
  10. El Wayne

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    I'm impressed!
     
  11. Glassman

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    It's amazing what a pint of ether can do!!!
     
  12. John Vardanian

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    #12 John Vardanian, Nov 1, 2004
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    Darren,

    There is one in Switzerland I believe. It's an early car with its drum brakes still in tact. Here's the website: http://www.dennigcars.org/used_ferrari.htm

    I have loved the shape of the PF Coupe for over 20 years, just as I love the shape of the 1956 Lincoln Continental, in spite of my dislike for American cars in general. It must be the 250's abrupt transition in the rear and that straight gentle radius curve that starts at the headlight and ends at the taillight. And that soft crease on the side that runs from the front wheel opening to the rear. The car's rear quarter view is exquisite. It is truly a sophisticated flavor.

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  13. dretceterini

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    Yes, I understand the PF and GTE are different cars, but they don't really drive all that differently. A GTE needeing restoration should be quite a bit cheaper than a PF needing restoration...or am I mistaken?? Of course the restoration costs would be similar...
     
  14. Glassman

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    You are correct. The PF Coupe will be worth more than the GTE in any conditions. The point is that an inexpensive PF may still be able to be found. And that would be the route I would take. If costs are out of sight the GTE would be the next best thing.
    Good luck.
     
  15. Bryanp

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    since we're on the topic, I can't help posting one of my favorite Ferrari pics of all time, John Vardanian's PF Coupe
     
  16. El Wayne

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    I agree. John's car is absolutely beautiful in that color. Even better in person. That photo needs a little work, though:
     
  17. djaffrey

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    I thought NJV12 would appear. This was the car I was outbid on by John V(referenced at top of mail). Have exchanged a few emails with John after the fact and am delighted the car found such a gentleman owner. Whenever I see a pic of NJV12 I try to ping it over to his email.

    Now all thats said where's my one gonna turn up from ... ?
     
  18. amenasce

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    Are PF being used as donor cars? or base for conversions ? I didnt think so. Thought only GTE had that sad destiny ?
     
  19. shaughnessy

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    PF Coupes are the BEST donor cars, much better than GTE's


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  20. amenasce

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    Thats very sad. They are so elegant .
     
  21. Fiat Dino 206

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    Sad, but true.

    The PF Coupe chassis is probabaly more easily suited to being used to make TDF's and TR's and the like. Probably more bits and pieces from the early cars are used in the repair of other, more expensive, early models.

    It's a shame, but a fact ... Ferrari owners are cannibals, we eat our own.

    As a former owner of 1041GT to whomever ate it, I hope ya choke!

    On the other hand ... the more of the PF Coupe that are eaten, the more the survivors are going to be worth in the future.

    Best wishes
     
  22. lukek

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    The background scenery still seems to be out of focus...Keep working on it.

     
  23. snj5

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    Agree - a uniquely spectacular car.
    I think the background is fine, as I can't take my eyes off of the car....
     
  24. Bryanp

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    It was a foggy day - I have the rest of the set from John somewhere that I will post tomorrow. Thanks for cleaning up that roadkill/road apples/whatever that was, Wayne.

    Tom is right, great donor cars; esp the first 150 or so (before #1493) w/ the drum brakes for your fakey TR. Check out this oldie but goodie from Sheehan's site. . . . . It kills me.

    http://www.ferraris-online.com/cars/1281/1281a.html
     
  25. Texas Forever

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    One of the ironies of F&L is that HST later admitted that he was stone sober during the actual trip into Las Vegas. It seems that prolonged drug use tends to cause memory loss, which can translate into writer's block.

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