Which model be the next classic model?

I think to the lay person a 360 and 430 are the same car. A bit like saying a Mondial 8 is so much more desirable than a 3.2 due to the period bumpers. Or a 3.2 over a t due to the different fenders. I'm still waiting to see a 360 with a body kit in primer running down the road. I do like them and would love to own one, just where I see them going first.

512bb but on it's way up even if slowly. The mid rear flat engines are not a front engine V12 though.

When the 400 series starts getting cut up for rebodies and people realize there is a proper Ferrari V12 up front and people start buying them for that reason, it will be realized that there are not as many of them as 360/430 on the road.

 

The die off principle. I've been watching the value of Ford Model Ts drop over many years. Owned one for a while. Not sure anyone is restoring them as there are enough good ones and museums have too many of them. The Model A is going in a similar direction. They are by and large owned by older folks. Restorations that are ongoing tend to be done by people in their 60's and 70's who just want to. I like the A and enjoy driving my Dads and wouldn't mind owning one, but I'm not going to pay to own one. I wouldn't sell my Dads if I come into it, but I'd be watching the value drop over the years. Surprisingly the model A is good for picking up chicks who want to fool around in the rumble seat, sadly, none younger than 80 years old.

 

None younger than 80 years old: to apply to the Model A...or to the chicks?

Rgds

 

360 with a primer body kit? Really? It's a $60,000+ used car. If they fall down to the 20's and 30's I could see that, but I don't think the 360 and 430 "as popular" as they are aren't going to drop that far anytime soon. As it is, there is a small proportion of owners that have modded their cars or converted it to look like a 430-ish. Not going to happen. As I see it the "type of guy" that will mod his car with a kit isn't going to spend the above money to do it to impress his friends in their supras. He can mod a Supra and find a buyer.. not so for a 360/430, and I don't think the mod buyer is going to eat that cost despite the "$100,000 invested" line they use on ebay.

The reason the 400's haven't popped in value and can still be had in the 20's and 30's.. are they're boxy and appeal to a small demographic that finds it attractive. If they were prettier there would be more people willing to spend the bucks. The 360 and 430 are pretty cars that stand out when you drive them down the road. The 400, doesn't. OTOH they would be great cars to source a the V12 for a P4 reproduction or the like.

 

Agree. But F430 has timing chain, more power, etc., than any of the 360s. I think buyers take that into account.

But not really classics -- just better drivers and a bit easier on the maintenance budget.

 

The difference between the early Countach and early TR is that the later Countach looked incredibly cheesy, while the original design was a work of art. That's the reason why the early Countach has gone to the moon. The 512TR, while a later design, was a improvent over the original design from a visual standpoint.

 

Well said...

 

I forgot about the cam chains and that's a big plus but they do look so similar to the 360 andthey made so many

 

damn good analogy with the model A and T. My wife's uncle restored an A yrs ago and it really is a great piece of work but I've wondered how much of a market there is for it as he and the car are only getting older

 

Whats the modern equivilant of the old 250GTE? 456 GT. First of the series, understated,v12, timeless styling. My favorite. Other fads will come and go.

 

I think the 348 is a real sleeper. They could take off.

Cheers,

Geo

 

I know I'll be tarred and feathered here for this but I actually think 308 GT4 is next desire able classic.

Reasons:

Hard to find a good one

Arguably best driving 308

No computers or real emissions

Last of 4 carb classic Ferrari's

Ease of maintenance and ownership cost

It's different and rare and only Bertone design

First Mid engine V8 Ferrari and design with Nicki Lauda F1 champ during Enzo era.

Not my favorite body style but appreciating quickly I believe...


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Will the "digital" cars like 458 really survive two decades? What happens with all electronics? All onboard computers that today are cutting edge but in the future will be like a sony walkman.

Why not a great analog V12 front engine Ferrari?

Future classics? Maybe 365GTC/4?

 

Daytonas are picking up steam rapidly now and GTC/4 is following them on the way up already.
Very curious how it does at Amelia next month.....

 

The 355 and it's "complicated" electronics (for the time) have survived perfectly fine for 20 years with readily available replacements.

The 250 v12's and their "complicated" ohc v12's with 6 carbs have survived perfectly fine for 50 years.

What is "complicated" and cutting edge now will be simple in 20 years and replaceable with off-the shelf electronics.

I thought we were talking future classics, not current classics. The GTC/4 is already over $200k and climbing, that boat has sailed.

 

328gts as F40 are The Last F cars approved And signed by Enzo !!!
So 328gts is more relevant And important For me And will become Classic
Only 6000 Made !!!
My 2 cents
Alessio

 

I remember when computers first started to be introduced in automobiles. There were scads of stories lamenting impending doom for shade tree mechanics. Now any redneck tuner with a laptop can chip your car or motorcycle. With the rise of 3D printing, which is advancing at a mind boggling rate, anything in any of these new cars will be able to be fabricated by any redneck with a laptop and 3D printer. I don't worry about it at all.

Still say the 328 is the one to watch, but the 365GTC/4 2+2 is my favorite car of that era. Prettier than the Daytona, IMO, and quite uncommon.

Cheers,

Geo

 

GT4?


Would have to bet against this notion.

 

I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED that the Daytona coupes are less than $1M.

 

Good ones are already between $600k-$700k,right where Lussos and 275GTBs were just a few years back.
You may see them cross that $1mln mark sooner than you think.....

 

The computers themselves will likely be fine but the problem will be connectors and harnesses. On board diagnostics on cars are not well-suited to finding intermittent problems caused by corroded contacts and failing harnesses owing to age. This will be made worse by the usage of wire which has an aluminium content to keep down costs.

In fact some 458s have not lasted 2 years already. There is a known issue with a harness in the front of the car which fails intermittently as it has a sharp corner in its routing path. Replacing this requires complete dismantling of the front end of the car.

 

the Spider and the limited version will!

 

Interesting article:

http://money.cnn.com/gallery/autos/2014/02/14/classic-cars-bear-market.fortune/index.html

 

Go GT4! I wouldn't expect it to take off like the original Dino or others here but hey I wouldn't fight it!

 

The cover to the Cars album Candy-O was essentially subliminal advertising even when I was 8 yrs old. Surprised these cars didn't rise in value sooner. The girl on the hood wasn't too bad either