White 365 Spider California in Naples

5th in NYC? Was it going to the Ferrari Store?

 

Could be 9849? See here.

 

Here it is on 5th Ave in Naples
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#9849 confirmed then.

 

I saw this car at Cars on 5th in Naples in the Scuderia section of the show. I spoke with the owner about the car. He remembered me since I talked to him about buying a 250 SII cab a few years prior. He asked me if he could bring the 250 to the show. I said absolutely!! I also awarded him a best in show back then. I ran that show for over 10 years.

He said that he had been looking for a 365 California for a while. Told me there are only 12 of the model left in the world. 10 LHD and 2 RHD. This car came from London. It's beautiful and seemingly in perfect condition. Glad to see him driving it in town! Really nice guy.

Funny......it's the 2nd time I have seen a 365 California. Back in the 70s when I made one of my many trips to Algar there was a 365 Cali in the shop. I asked about the car. The salesman said it was Al Garthwaite's wife's car but she didn't drive it much.

The 365 Cali was probably the first [non-prototype] model with the Type 245 engine. It was built in 1967 when the Queen Mother was a just show car and before the 365 GTC was under production. Very cool car and a great engine.

 

Engine is tipo 217B in the 365 California that was developed into the tipo 245.

 

Thank you for the correction. I know just enough or not enough to be dangerous….lol

 

It was introduced at the 1966 Geneva Motor Show with the 330 GTC and was built between 1966 and 1967. I thought 13 of the 14 produced still exist with only #10155 considered lost/destroyed/last seen in a scrapyard?

 

The owner said that one of the 12 LHD cars was destroyed somewhere in South America. Not sure about the other missing. Maybe I can find his contact info and ask. Sorry for my less than detailed comments.

 

I believe the two 365 P Tre-Posti cars (#8815 & #8971) both also carried Tipo 217B motors when new.

 

No.
365 P Tre Posti have/had 217 P.
Not B.
Different letter.

Marcel Massini

 

Chassis type stamped as 330.
Same IGM number as 330 (type homologation).

Marcel Massini

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Well, New Jersey is not really South America, me thinks.
The missing car (10155) was last seen at Tony's Exotics, a wrecking yard in NJ/USA (near George Washington Bridge/NY).

Marcel Massini

 

Interesting that only the first (prototype) 365 California #8347 is said to have the tipo 571 330 GT 2+2 chassis with the following 13 having a tipo 598 chassis, and yet they (probably?) are all stamped Ferrari 330 GT with the chassis number plus the 3835 OM homologation number. #9889 and #10327 are, in addition to #9849 pictured.

The 500 Superfast, chassis stamped Ferrari 500 SF, also has a similar chassis to the 330 GT 2+2, but is tipo 578.

 

More chassis number stampings of 365 Californias.
9631, 9889, 9935 and 10327.
All 330.

Marcel Massini

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Does it have pop-up driving lights? Not one pic with them up. Could cause damage to paint, perhaps?

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Yes, it does.

Fiskens picture.
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Here it is at Cavallino #31 on January 22, 2022.
And yes, I also saw it under the VIP tent at Cars on 5th on February 5, 2022.
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In 1972 the then owner of 9849 in NJ had the pop-up headlamps and the power steering removed and thrown in the trunk, and the car repainted burgundy. Only four owners later in 1987 was the car brought back to pop-ups.

Marcel Massini

 

Vacuum, cable or levers operated?

Pop-ups in motion at 1:05



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https://www.fiskens.com/cars-for-sale/Ferrari-365-California-Spyder/11650.htm

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365 California Spyder .... sorry

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The Certificato d'Origine lists: Tipo 365 California
but the SEFAC invoices list "FERRARI" 365/GT = CALIFORNIA GRANTURISMO automobile - SPYDER PININFARINA
Take your pick, I just refer to the model as 365 California.