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Who would you rather see winning races in 2019?

Discussion in 'F1' started by Igor Ound, Aug 3, 2018.

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Who?

  1. Ricciardo/Renault

    23 vote(s)
    67.6%
  2. Max/Red Bull-Honda

    2 vote(s)
    5.9%
  3. Alonso/Mclaren (if he stays)

    9 vote(s)
    26.5%
  1. Igor Ound

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  2. Adrian Thompson

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    I'm guessing you only need the first answer to this poll, the 2nd and 3rd options seem pretty redundant to me ;)
     
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  3. SPEEDCORE

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    How about Williams without Stroll :D
     
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  4. Igor Ound

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    That would be a surprise!
     
  5. william

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    Ricciardo is my favourite driver, so no surprise that I voted for him.
    I wish him good luck, and I hope Renault will give him a good car.
     
  6. daytona355

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    I’ll be shocked if Renault become a front running team, but if they do, Ricci will take some beating
     
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  7. beast

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    I could not vote because I don't really care for any of the choices. I honestly think that Riccardo shot himself in the Foot by going to Renault.
     
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  8. Igor Ound

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    No love for Max?
     
  9. daytona355

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    I think Max hasn’t yet proven himself matured sufficiently to make an assault on the championship on his own merits yet, and it’s a massive gamble that Honda will be able to match the expectations of Red Bull, even if he does prove to have purged his demons, that power unit has a massive step to take and these days, massive steps aren’t easy to come by with the lack of actual physical ‘in-car fitted testing’ of the units
     
  10. Igor Ound

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    I think “arrogance”. Both him and Horner
     
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    They are going to need every ounce of their arrogance next year to drown out the laughing if they don’t drag performance out of that box of bolts from Honda...... they may quickly wish they hadn’t moaned quite so publicly about the Renault units
     
  12. beast

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    I honestly feel that Honda might be the surprise PU for 2019. Yes Toro Rosso has gone through a lot of PU replacements, but I honestly think that Red Bull told Honda use 2018 as a testing season and test out as many upgrades possible. Toro Rosso has not really had a lot of mechanical DNF's this year, and have had few good finishes in the points. IF you were to put the Toro Rosso drivers in a Ferrari or Mercedes they more than likely not be much higher in the points.
     
  13. daytona355

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    I’d like to see Honda competitive, and if they do it, red bull may we’ll wipe the floor with everyone, but their issues seem deeply entrenched throughout their PU, there doesn’t seem to be an isolated issue or two, it’s the whole package that seems flawed, and solving one issue seems to create another... hope I’m wrong, but then again, the only thing I want to see is a ferrari one two at every race!
     
  14. Ryan...

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    No doubting Max's skill, but for some reason the guy just rubs me wrong..

    Plus, I just can't find myself cheering for Redbull sponsored anything. At least with Ferrari/Merc/Renault/McLaren I can associate their teams with their road going products, which for some unknown reason makes it easier for me to cheer for them.
     
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  15. beast

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    I have to agree with you on every point. The problem with the Honda McLaren venture was the fact that there was just 2 cars not several like Renault, Ferrari and Mercedes had the first few seasons of the current engine formula. McLaren wanted to win even though there chassis is a total roach, that did not lead to McLaren wanting to take grid penalties to develop the PU as well as the token system limiting development. With Toro Rosso being a team to help develop junior drivers with less expectation to win. Now with the Token system gone Honda can use the "Development team" to improve and try new things while the drivers learn as well.Next season Honda can put a stable version of the PU into the Red Bull while testing new ideas in the Toro Rosso and making them available to Red Bull once it becomes reliable.

    Honda suffered with having only 1 team using there PU while everyone else had 3 teams using there PU's, Honda only had 2 cars to use data from where everyone else had 6 engines of data to work with. Honda is still going to have a massive challenge to get up to the levels of Mercedes and Ferrari but they have the engineering staff in Japan to make it happen.
     
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  16. Igor Ound

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    Dennis vetoed Honda from being used by Red Bull sooner. Big mistake.
     
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    You can talk about your "rathers" all day long. But, if Honda comes through with reliable power, the orange shirt crowd will have a lot to be happy about. MAX! IMO
     
  18. william

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    Yep, same here. Red Bull has a finger in every pie,: F1, F2, rallying, sailing, air races,Dakar, MotoGP, enduro, GT, WTCC, etc..

    It's more an advertising agency than anything. To me it looks like an overkill.

    No doubts it's a ploy to recycle excess profit and avoid paying more taxes.
     
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    Max

    There is no stopp'n the Verstappn.
     
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    Irresistible force meets immovable object. It happened to Senna as well on occasion.

    Still the coolest dude on the grid by a long shot.
     
  22. Igor Ound

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    If he ain’t in red (yet) leave him in the shed ;)
     
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    I hope to see Max in red one day. It will be Gilles Villeneuve The Reload.
     
  24. daytona355

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    Without the desire for self destruction I would hope
     
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    Max should change his name to "Cow" Crash or Win ;)
     

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