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Wife possibly hooked on Mondial

Discussion in 'Mondial' started by Ronbo, Aug 20, 2014.

  1. Ronbo

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    We are looking to replace my wifes's 2003 M-B SL500. She wants a toy, not a daily driver (although the SL handled both roles). She has always been partial to the look of the Mondial. If she likes the car enough to buy it she'd be willing to learn how to shift.

    So, what's the real story about reliability and cost of ownership? Am I right to look for a t rather than an earlier model? I understand the major is engine out, but apart from that is it unusually expensive to own? Can it be a reliable car if well maintained? Any land mines?

    For reference, I used to own a '98 456 that was very reliable and not particularly expensive to keep running smoothly.
     
  2. davebdave

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    My wife has a Mondial t which she lets me drive. She grew up in Italy so driving a stick is natural for her. Automatics are frowned upon.

    Here is the thing, the power steering is a real plus in the t. I'm not saying women don't appreciate manual steering (my wife loved her Renault 5) but as a rule chicks don't like working up a sweat parking their cars. :) Grey area I know.

    The convertible top is a pain in the assssssssss. I don't mind operating it but my wife pretty much only drives the t in nice weather with the top down.

    Also, she loves the Ferrari but doesn't totally trust it. She won't drive it alone at night or when I am away.

    However, when the weather is nice she loves taking her Red Ferrari to work.

    The Mondial is a special car for special occasions.

    Dave
     
  3. Wade

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    A Ferrari is an expensive way to learn how to use a stick shift, especially a t (about $2500 for a clutch kit alone). May I suggest an expendable beater first?
     
  4. Valenzo

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    I now have nearly double the cost of the car in repair bills in just 3 years and 7k miles. :eek: L@L ... but i still love the car. I cant explain it. There's reason why my bills are so high and if you stick around, you'll learn why. But, it wasnt the car's fault, like most abominations, its the hand of man that caused it.

    The car itself, serviced properly, is a real joy to own. My experience is very unusual but Oddly enough, i would buy another, its that good. Enjoy the ride.
     
  5. porphy

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    Ditto
     
  6. godabitibi

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    A valeo would be the one for her. No clutch, just the stick.
    Personnally after having owned a 87 3.2, I would buy another one anytime if I was in the market for another car. And a Valeo T if possible to find one.

    Wait for Hank's answer ;-)
     
  7. hank sound

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    #7 hank sound, Aug 20, 2014
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    :):) hi folks - - - My Valeo equipped Rachel, has been virtually trouble free over the 10 years that she's been in my family. She is the car that Rachel Hunter and Rod Stewart took their kids to school in.

    This coming weekend, I'll be taking all the kids at my grandson's 3rd birthday party, for rides. Let's see .. that would be one in the front - - - and two in the back !!!! How cool is that ???

    Whatever you drive - - be safe and be happy/.

    Cheers, Hank
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  8. dfranzen

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    buy a car that has service records although this is not always reliable

    for a 3.2

    simple belt change is in car and around $1500 and less (I wont argue interval)
    oil change figure $300 less every 5000miles if use synthetic
    major service around $5000 30K miles or 10 years
    its a 25 year old car so if your are handy and with this site you can do alot of "service" yourself....otherwise its a car

    my wife drives ours with a wicked grin on her face!


    For T cant comment

    Power steering is plus for women
    Hank can give you the scoop we have the same guy
     
  9. ceb39

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    Let her drive a stick and an automatic and see how she feels about them.

    I advise against taking you wife to some place where there are 550s. While visiting our Mondial while it was in the shop, there was a beautiful 550 there. My wife's comment, "I could drive this."

    I told her it was a stick shift.

    "Piece of cake, I drove dune buggies over the dunes at Pismo Beach, this thing would be easy to drive." She said.

    It'll cost $80K.

    "You could die tomorrow, plus all it means is the kids get less inheritance."

    My advice, move fast, get the Mondial, when you take it to shop leave the wife home.

    ceb39
     
  10. soucorp

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    #10 soucorp, Aug 20, 2014
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    Nicely done Hank, I like the new look on Rachel...

    C h e e r i o :)
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  11. srephwed

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    for me being the hillbilly I are having the qv mondial is the only Ferrari I should own.with common hand tools,a little patience and some mechanical ability timing belts,tensioners,water pump can all be done easily and inexpensively.the clutch was a little more difficult requiring a special socket and the manufacture of a puller but still very easy to do.I believe I could do both again in an 8 hour day with a nice lunch break.instructions with very good illustrations are in the archives here.good luck
     
  12. 123howie

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    Wow, Rachel is Hot, I like the painted mirrors and spoiler. Is Rachel lowered?
     
  13. dfranzen

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    look closely Mike forgot to circle the lower sills
     
  14. dfranzen

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    Yep I agree save money if you can tinker yourself!
     
  15. soucorp

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    I see it now, looks fantastic ! Wow Hank, you've got the version. I might copy ;)
     
  16. docmirror

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    Drive both t and a 3.2/QV with her and see which she likes better. If you keep the front tires inflated well the steering isn't a big deal on the early cars.

    Oh, and get a Miata or old Fiat to learn stick driving. Then, switch to the Ferrari.

    It's a 25-30YO Italian sports car, so that should clear up questions about reliability. The big ticket items like engine, trans, brakes usually don't have a lot of problems, but all the ancillary systems like windows, top, cooling, AC/heat, gauges will require some TLC regularly. Most of this stuff can be DIY if you are handy, but it is time consuming. The gotchas for the Mondial specifically are the top operation, rear window operation, AC, and TRX wheels on the early cars.
     
  17. paulchua

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    Beautiful Car Hank!!!
     
  18. WilyB

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    #18 WilyB, Aug 24, 2014
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    My wife driving our then new Mondial from Pozzi back to home. She was happy about the power steering compared to our previous 3.2l.
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  19. Faber

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    Ditto on all especially my bride's grin…(-*
     
  20. TMan

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    Ditto again what Valenzo said!!
     
  21. hank sound

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    #21 hank sound, Aug 25, 2014
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    Ditto again? --------- yeah, I'll gladly ride that horse. And with 3 additional seats, a family of four can join the party !!

    Cheers, Hank
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