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Will Lewis quit & who is available to replace him ?

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  1. SimCity3

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    Did you say Hamilton is almost 40 ?
    :D

    Spotty teenager Max against well established Daniel ?

    You'll be claiming that Bottas is a Top 10 driver next :D
     
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  2. ktu

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    When someone has to combine points from 3 years to beat you that says alot.
     
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  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Lewis first F3 season (after already doing Formula renault 2 full seasons): 1 win
    Max Verstappen first F3 season (1st season of car racing): 10 wins
     
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  4. ktu

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    Yeah Ron knew from the start Hamilton had a edge on Alonso. Hamilton embarrassed Alonso so bad Ron made Hamilton #1 and put him in his corner. Alonso was aslo battling getting beat by a rookie.
     
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  5. Wass85

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    He came 5th I believe, and that's without a rich daddy backing him up.

    He then went on to dominate all the feeder series he entered, quite amazing really.
     
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  6. Wass85

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    And Verstappen had slobbering grandaddy Helmut ensuring he got all the preferential treatment, still, when the car was fast enough for pole it was the teams number 2 that got them all.
     
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  7. Wass85

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    Ah, the old 3 season aggregate that nobody has ever taken notice of in the history of the sport.

    In reality Hamilton won in 2 out of the 3 seasons they were partnered.
     
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  8. Bas

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    No daddy indeed to feed off.

    Just Mercedes' tits, worth a mere 50 billion at the time.

    PS Verstappens' dad at the time was worth pathetically little (in comparrisson to others surrounding him) and really wasn't much to squeeze from him. He had an estimated net worth of around 6 million at the time. He really couldn't afford Max to race on his dime very long.
     
  9. Wass85

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    Yep, he had nasty daddy to suckle off unlike Sir Lewis.

    Hamilton then went straight in to the deep end and beat one of the best ever and sent him packing with his tail between his legs.

    Verstappen on the other hand and his hands full with a clear number 2 in Ricciardo, there's levels and there's levels son.
     
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  10. E60 M5

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    I have to agree, Hamilton got just enough edge to take Alonso out of his game and focused on Hamilton rather than his own game.
     
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    I'm sure that worked both ways, and to say he actually beat a legend in his rookie season is unheard of.
     
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  12. Bas

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    Erm, you're missing a couple of seasons. He didn't go 1 season F3 to F1, that was Max. Lewis did 2 seasons F3, then F2, then F1. All of the mighty Mercedes funded teat. Lewis' dad may not have been very rich but lets not pretend that Lewis' didn't have an extremely well funded ride on his way through the ranks. Much better funded than Verstappen in fact.
     
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    Max was basically royalty, he was that privileged he got the chance to drive in F1 after one season in F3, jobs for the boys and all that.
     
  14. william

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    No he didn't, as the stats prove.
     
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  15. Bas

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    Through talent, not because of his dads name. In fact, certainly not because of his dads name. Sure, having connections help but if you haven't got the talent to back it up, you won't have 2 top teams fighting to get you at 16 years old.
     
  16. Wass85

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    Truth be told Button gave Hamilton more trouble than I imagined but Lewis was clearly the faster driver.

    This was at a stage where it felt like Whitmarsh was bending over backwards for JB and doing his best to alienate Hamilton.

    Now ask yourself this, could you imagine Horner and Marko treating Verstappen like that, not in a month of Sunday's.

    Hahahahaha and Lewis didn't reach the same heights due to his talent right, you are scraping the barrel now.
     
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    In 3 years, he won 10 GPs against Button 8.
     
  18. william

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    LOL
     
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  19. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You are clutching a straw here: Hamilton clearly won more races than Button.
     
  20. Bas

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    2010 Button/Lewis where much closer than anyone anticipated.
    2011 Hamilton decided his job that season was to crash into anything that moved, especially red cars with drivers called Massa in them.
    2012 by Lewis was on his way out to Mercedes. Only after his announcement did he get less treatment, and that's natural for any team.

    Lewis was never treated (until he announced he was leaving) like a lesser person at Mclaren. The mere notion is ludicrous. Why would a team intentionally harm it's potential for results?



    Eh? What are you on about? You're confusing matters.
     
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    I followed Hamilton closely throughout his career, it was obvious Whitmarsh had a hard-on for Button, whether that meant he got preferential treatment I do not know, probably not but who knows hey.

    Hamilton was still the faster driver nevertheless.

    2016- Verstappen had just joined the team, Ricciardo was bound to beat him.
    2017- Shouldn't this star driver be beating Ricciardo by now?
    2018 - Let's give Ricciardo a car plagued by failures, then Verstappen just might beat him.
     
  22. Bas

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    #397 Bas, Jan 3, 2022
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    Button didn't get preferential treatment.

    2016: correct, just joined. 2nd Season in F1 EDIT: Funny how the reliability issues that only affected Max this season are ignored as well...1st failure (albeit a different car but from a strong position) in Russia, then he had 2 at fault crashes (Monaco and Spa), and then had another reliability issue.
    2017: Funny how you go on about 2018 and completely ignore Max's many engine related failures in both races and qualies, most often from very high positions at the time. Max already clearly winning the qualifying battle between them.
    2018: They didn't "give" Ricciardo a poor car. Yes he received brunt of reliability issues this time, but lets not forget that Max was totally dominating Ricciardo at this point already. Whilst without the failures Ricciardo would be closer, Max was still the clear winner.
     
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  23. Wass85

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    Just like Hamilton didn't get preferential treatment when he beat Alonso.
    2016- Beaten by Ricciardo in his second season in F1.

    2007- Beats Alonso in his first season in F1.

    Out of the two I know who's got the stellar record and who hasn't.
     
  24. Bas

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    They're both beaten twice by teammates as far as I'm aware. Max at the start of his career, Lewis in his prime.

    I know whose got the stellar record, indeed. :rolleyes:
     
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  25. Wass85

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    None are the GOAT then clearly, hopefully RB will find someone to challenge Max one day instead of being his cuck.
     

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