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Would you buy a Cali T with 34,000 miles?

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  1. TifosiConch

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    My Cali T search continues, I snoozed and lost my first choice! Now I'm considering a 2015 being sold by a Ferrari dealer, it is properly equipped for me and attractively priced due to the miles. Carfax shows 2 owners, a clean record, and no visits to any Ferrari dealer(or ANY service visits) since new, I find this unusual as the car has an intact seven year maintenance plan until 2022. I know not all records make it into the Carfax, but this is the shortest Carfax report I have seen on a Ferrari of any stripe. The car is 1000 miles away so I can't just pop in for a look. I am concerned about lack of maintenance on any wear items like the top, turbos, etc.
     
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  2. DonBecker

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    Have you spoken with the dealer selling the car, wouldn't they be able to more thoroughly check for service records in addition to the info you have from the Carfax?
     
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  3. Snewton94024

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    I have a 2016 California T with 8500 miles and have done the annual service each year.
    They have found only one issue during those visits and it was fixed under warranty and I did buy the extended factory warranty for piece of mind. With 34,000 miles I would want a thorough inspection given you will be on your own from a non-warranty standpoint.
     
  4. TifosiConch

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    Dealer has no additional records, is willing to do the annual upon sale.
     
  5. ANOpax

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    34,000 miles and 5 years without a service?

    Walk on and don't look back. The biggest issue for me would be the lack of oil changes. You're asking for trouble.

    I would happily buy a car with 34,000 miles on it but not one which hasn't been serviced over that time and mileage interval.
     
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  6. Snewton94024

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    The dealer can access all Ferrari VIN's to see what service is recorded.
     
  7. TifosiConch

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    Thank you-the packet of info from the dealer was titled Carfax, service records and photos, no service records were present. I made another phone call, service records had been omitted by a clerical error. I now have them, all services are up to date.
     
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    It sounds like you are about to own a California T!

    I have about that same mileage on my 2010 California. Sure, there are some minor issues, but with regular maintenance, the car should run A LOT farther, I think. (I hope...)
     
  9. SLViper1

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    Do it, I think you will Love it!
     
  10. Piper

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    Before you leap, I've just posted up my Cali T for sale.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/801456136/overview/

    Also a thread here in the FS area. I'm well known around here and I stake my reputation on my cars.
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  11. TifosiConch

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    Thanks Piper, beautiful car but I must have the 20" diamond wheels, and they are $5K plus used. My offer on the 34K mile car reflected that cost as well and was not accepted. I have found Magneride on only about 20% of Cali Ts, so I have relaxed my stance on that. The search continues....
     
  12. Ianjoub

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    That is a heck of an assumption. If I bought a Ferrari (and I did) I would have no intention of bringing it to the dealer unless I had no option. This does not mean that no oil changes were done.
     
  13. ANOpax

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    So tell me. If the oil change is free (as it’s included in the 7 year service plan), why would you choose to spend money getting it done elsewhere?
     
  14. Piper

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    Just off the cuff, any Cali T would still be covered by 7yrs prepaid maintenance so it costs nothing to take it to the dealer annually. If a '15 or later has been regularly serviced, it should be extremely easy to find record. Conversely, if you can't find record, might be a good indicator of potential neglect.
     
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    If the car is hundreds of miles away from a Ferrari dealer, I could see not doing the maintenance. However, if it's missed a (free) dealer maintenance, it may not be possible to buy the factory New Power warranty on it, I think one of the stipulations is that all services are up to date at the dealer.

    I would imagine any Cali T that has the "bumpy road" button on the steering wheel -- the one with the blue rim and shock absorber icon -- then the car has Magneride. I'm surprised you're having difficulty finding cars with that option. It is a very nice option to have, especially on the T as it enables you to keep the car in Sport mode and still soften the shocks on bad roads, which you can't do on the earlier Californias -- nice to have here in New England. I wouldn't buy a car without it, but I haven't encountered one that doesn't have it, either. It may not be advertised as having Magneride, but if the button is there, I think you're good.

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  16. TifosiConch

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    Now that I know what to look for, the steering wheel is the first pic I look for as I browse.
     
  17. SLViper1

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    If it has it great, if not don’t sweat it, the Cali T has an excellent suspension and handling either way IMHO
     
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  18. Piper

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    Truth.
     
  19. tomc

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    C'mon, do a deal you guys! That's probably the second best looking Cali in the US! ;)
    Paul...To be honest, I was not a fan of the tires on my Cali when I bought the car. They've grown on me somewhat.
    More importantly, you can't see them from the driver's seat; all I see is that lovely chocolate leather, the gorgeous avorio, hear the sexy growl when accelerating.
    The rest is gravy!
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  20. Piper

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    I actually like the wheels on mine more than any of the others. They speak to my American Muscle heritage.

    Thanks for the compliment. I don't think it gets any prettier than mine, but I'm biased. If she doesn't sell in the next couple of months there's a good chance that I may land some additional business and decide to keep her for a while.

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  21. tomc

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    Here's hoping your business is good. That's a gorgeous color with the ideal complementary interior...T
     
  22. Piper

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    Thanks, man. Going to be a great 2020, but a couple of scary recompetes this year so 2021 is a bit of a wildcard. I always knee jerk and dump the toys when I sense uncertainty. Always regret it, too.
     
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  23. TifosiConch

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    Piper, your car has the most bodacious interior I have seen- are those carbon fiber air vents? Exterior color is not critical for me as I'm going to wrap it yellow, reds or blacks would clash a bit more at the paint/wrap junctions, white or silver a little less.
     
  24. Piper

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    Yes, OEM carbon fiber air vents.
     
  25. DavidRS4

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    There is one on carguru already wrapped yellow, but its a bit questionable. That being said if you like red at all you should really take a look at Piper's car. Its a fantastic color in person.
     

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