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Would you watch "F1" without Ferrari?

Discussion in 'F1' started by Fast_ian, May 2, 2009.

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Would you still follow "F1" if Ferrari pulled out?

  1. Yep - Makes no difference to me, I love F1 regardless

  2. I guess I'd tune in on occasion

  3. Screw that - I'd be done with the whole thing!

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  1. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Hey,

    All this debate got me wondering - If they pulled out would you still follow F1 without 'em?

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
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  3. darth550

    darth550 Five Time F1 World Champ
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    This year we are.... :(

    But to answer your question, yes I would but with nowhere near the enthusiasm.
     
  4. DGS

    DGS Four Time F1 World Champ

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    This fiasco hasn't been real F1 for some time. Their *ONLY* connection to the past is Ferrari.

    Spa, Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Watkin's Glen, Imola, the "real" Ring, etc. -- all gone or hanging under threat.

    Jaguar, Aston Martin, Maserati, Alfa, Mercedes (under their own name), Auto Union (Audi), etc, etc: all the classic names are gone ... Except Ferrari.

    Without Ferrari, FOM would have to be called "the racing series that used to have a connection to F1".
     
  5. aquapuss

    aquapuss Formula 3

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    F1 has been practically without Ferrari this season. Still watching, always have.
     
  6. Modena360-66

    Modena360-66 Formula Junior

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    well even if they don't do well, they are still on the track,
    If they weren't here at all it wouldn't be the same.
     
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  8. ricksb

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    Honestly, Ferrari drew me into F1, and that was when they sucked in the early 90's. While I laud drivers like Senna, Hakkinen, & Hamilton (and Alonso, even though he grates on me), this has always been about watching my favorite team compete to win. Those guys are simply foils to my protagonists in the F1 story. When they win, I give them credit for getting the job done and for their superior skill, but I would not follow the series if there were no Ferrari. Same with sports car racing; I didn't consider it a real series until Ferrari teams started joining the fold.

    My answer is a resounding 'no'. It wouldn't be worth getting up at 4:30a to see a series without the Scuderia.
     
  9. ricksb

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    +1. Add the "real" Hockenheim Ring to the list of tracks. That was my second favorite F1 venue. I understand pulling the 'Ring due to driver safety, but I never understood why Hockenheim was changed, except for modernization.
     
  10. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I voted no.
     
  11. Ferranki

    Ferranki Formula Junior

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    Same for me. Would sort of be like the Yankees pulling out of baseball. The sport would probably survive, but wouldn't be the same thing. Lets hope we're not telling future generations we can remember the day when Ferrari used to compete in F1.
     
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  13. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Great post, I have very similar views especially about the drivers.

    I can honestly say I don't know if I would watch F1 without Ferrari. What I do know is, whether you love them or hate them, the hole they would leave would be massive.

    So for me, for certain I would look at getting my racing fix else where, It wouldn't take that much thought, as the old senile gits running it are seeing to that.
     
  14. jjmalez

    jjmalez F1 Rookie
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    No. Ferrari is to F1 what the New York Yankees are to MLB. I'm not a Yankee fan, but Ferrari is the crem' de la crem' (sp?) of Formula One.


    IMHO


    Joe
     
  15. LightGuy

    LightGuy Three Time F1 World Champ
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    There is another catagory missing;

    Yes I would watch but it wouldnt be the same.
     
  16. IanMac

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    Come on Steve where are you going to get a satisfactory fix other than with F1? What other racing is televised that would give you the same kick as F1? And don't tell me you'd get your thrills going down to Oulton to watch Caterhams! ;)
     
  17. FerrariF1

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    I would still watch it even with out Ferrari. What else would you watch? It is the best motor racing period and ton more interesting than any other racings. However I do miss MS in red car and his interviews.
     
  18. ricksb

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    Honestly, I'd choose to watch the back of my eyelids if Ferrari were out of Formula 1. I probably should be doing that anyway.
     
  19. Neonzapper

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    #16 Neonzapper, May 2, 2009
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    It would be a big empty hole, that's for sure! I have seen racing change before. The two biggest examples here in America are the Indy 500 and NASCAR.

    When I was a boy, the Indianapolis 500 was the biggest race in American motorsport. It would be run with cars from different manufacturers, and the winning car from each year was displayed in the Indy 500 Museum. It was as American as apple pie! Back in my day, the race could be heard live on the radio, then it was telecast on ABC's Wide World of Sports the Saturday before Memorial Day - a big deal! When I got a little older, I rode my bike to a local movie theater to see a "Live Simulcast" from satellite of the Indianapolis 500. Eventually, it was telecast "Live" - ooh ahh! And, the Pace Car was as big a deal as the race itself - always an American Muscle Car with lettering on the side (which could be ordered from dealerships in limited quantity). Of course, the Indianapolis 500 is still a big deal race here, but compared to the past it is not even close! It is ALL Honda with a very different following. It only took two generations to forget it's full past history.

    As for NASCAR, the name isn't broken down anymore (National Association of Stock Car Automobile Racing) because there are no more "stock" cars. The type of cars raced are not stock, but they are still mostly American dominant - for now. The last generation has made NASCAR extremely popular here, but they never saw "stock" cars race in NASCAR.

    F1 rules are changing the cars - the way they look, drive, pit, etc. The new rules and the economy are forcing heavy demands on constructors. So, F1 concievably could no longer have different constructor manufacturers represented, or possibly change in some other way. Hopefully it would take more than just 2 generations to wipe out the memory of Ferrari in F1 - if that sad day were ever to happen.
     
  20. dave_fonz_164

    dave_fonz_164 Formula 3

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    The F1 isnt what it used to be, i have shifted my attention to MOTO GP/WSBK, now thats real racing with some strong Italian pedigree represented by Aprilia and Ducati
     
  21. TheMayor

    TheMayor Eight Time F1 World Champ
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    I think I was a bigger Ferrari F1 fan in the 80's when they were really struggling. If they leave F-1, Bernie and Max can keep what's left in my book.

    This year is only interesting because of the surprise of some smaller teams kicking butt. If McLaren was running away this year, I doubt most of us would be as excited as we are now in the season.

    I think Brawn and Red Bull are actually saving F-1. They are proving that you can be a smaller team and still succeed. I don't think many thought that was possible for quite a while.
     
  22. enzokidd

    enzokidd Formula Junior

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    i chose the first one, but it will be a little different with ferrari, i guess..i'll still enjoy watching f1 without the red cars though..
     
  23. ZiFF

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    I stopped watching once Schumacher retired. I watched Senna, Prost and Schumacher because they were very special talents, of major historical proportions.

    No one like that currently, plus, I don't know if it's because of the various rules changes, etc., just doesn't seem as compelling anymore.
     
  24. SeaGate

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    I'm still watching now and its almost like Ferrari isn't there anyway.
     
  25. Whisky

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    Without Ferrari, we would still watch on TV, but would the fans go to the races ?

    What do you think the crowd would be in Italy ?

    As far as the Poll question goes, I would have preferred 'Yes, I would still watch' without the 'I love F1 regardless' on the end of it.
    I don't love F1 anymore, but I would watch more often than not.
    That is, unless McLaren starts winning, then I would drop it.
     
  26. Whisky

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    GOOD POINT !
     
  27. kraftwerk

    kraftwerk Two Time F1 World Champ

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    LOL I hear you Ian, I'am struggling with that..I can move on...but the televised bit.. not thought about that.

    BTCC is brillant racing IMO. But If F1 stays the fastest most creative ....ahhh who knows..;)
     
  28. Ferrarista3

    Ferrarista3 F1 Rookie

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    With no Ferrari, I'd stop watching F1.
     

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