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Luuk Uiterwijk (Luuk__annet)
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 1:46 am:   

I am happy it works out for you JRK,

The topic about eliminate the connector looks interesting I�ll think if I have another problem with one my connectors again I�m gone do the job. I�m sure you gone give some children a good time.Goodluck�

Luuk
J R K (Kenyon)
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Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 522
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:34 am:   

Guys, I have found the problem. The main power wire in the black plastic plug between the door had brcken off. As Jeff mentioned I pulled back the rubber on the screw type plug on the door side and the wire had broken off from the main small pin connector. I have solder it back to the small pin and its works brillantly, actually the window goes up and down quicker then before.



Guys thanks for all your help. This site is great for help and advice. Much appreciated. A small thought Ferrari dealer wanted �150.00 to diagnose the problem but not fix it..... RIP OFFS.... Upload
Brian Willis (Lmpdesigner)
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 7:22 pm:   

I had a similar problem on my TR. It turns out that there is a ground lead from the window motor assembly (it is actually buried in the wiring harness) that goes to a tab on the floor of the door assembly. This bolt had come loose and was making occasional contact. The window would work now and then, especially if you opened/closed the door.

The 348 maybe different but you may need to pull the door panel and check the motor wiring inside the door.
J R K (Kenyon)
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Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 515
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 4:00 am:   

Craig,

do you mean remove the drivers window button and plug it on the passenger side. ????
Craig Williams (Craigw)
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 3:51 am:   

Justin, mine does same occasionally, try the plug on the drivers side door also as this seems to affect both sides.Good luck.
J R K (Kenyon)
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Post Number: 514
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 3:03 am:   

http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/256120/192823.html
J R K (Kenyon)
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Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 513
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 3:01 am:   

Jeff,
Thanks I forgot your in the states its moring in the UK.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/256120/206397.html

I found this thread. This could be the answer.
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
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Username: Miltonian

Post Number: 443
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 2:55 am:   

The entire wiring diagram is several pages, the section relating to power windows is one page, but it's too big to fit in my scanner. I HAVE to get to bed now and up again in six hours for work, I'll check tomorrow to see if you still need a copy, OK?
J R K (Kenyon)
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Post Number: 512
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 2:43 am:   

Jeff,

Is it possible to have electronic copy of the 348 wiring diagram ???
I will check the archives, hopefully I can find.
Thanks again
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
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Username: Miltonian

Post Number: 442
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 2:11 am:   

JRK - Wish I could help. I have the 348 wiring diagrams, but not the one for the Spider, which I think was separate. The one I have does not show the switch/relay for the convertible top part of the loop.

Somewhere in the archives there was a good explanation (including photos) of how to fix the wiring problem at the connector in the door jamb by removing the pins and substituting solid wire through the holes. Might be your problem.

I think you can also swap the switches on the drivers door panel to check for problems there.

If it comes down to an emergency repair, you can always just run power directly to the window motor to get it raised, then unplug it so it can't go down.

Good luck with your weekend event, sounds like a great cause!!
J R K (Kenyon)
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Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 511
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 1:40 am:   

Luuk,

Thanks for your advice.
I will try this and let you know.

I pressed the passenger window button to go down and it moved slightly then stopped. Press the button again and moved down slightly. Press to go up and did not move. So I kept pressing the button to go down and it moved slightly and would stop. It kept doing this all the way down. But never went up again. Power shortage some where.

When you normal press the down button and hold it the window continous to go down until you lift off the button. Does not do this any more.
Its been progressive problem of a period of time.
Luuk Uiterwijk (Luuk__annet)
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Username: Luuk__annet

Post Number: 57
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 1:13 am:   

JRK ,

I don't have a electric diagram, try to find out on the door connector that is working on witch wires the power come�s out for the window so you will no if it's in the door or in the rest of the electric circuit you have to be with two persons so somebody can push the window switch while you are measuring.



Luuk


J R K (Kenyon)
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Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 510
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 12:54 am:   

Luuk,

I have checked all the wiring connections in the door. I check the passenger footwell fuse box and the window fuses are OK. The passenger window has now gone all the way down and will not go up at all.

The drivers window works fine. No issues...

The drivers window and passenger window wiring runs into a plug that is located under the front driver side console. The plug feeds into a black box. When you press any of the window operating buttons the relay makes a clicking sound. I am not sure if this is where the problem is.

It seems to be no power to window motor ??? Any suggestions would be great.

Has any one got a wiring schematic diagram of the 348 electrics ?

I need to get the window working for the weekend , because I am doing a charity event with the car for terminal ill children.
Luuk Uiterwijk (Luuk__annet)
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Username: Luuk__annet

Post Number: 55
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 8:56 am:   

I don't no if it is so but if it is a relay with a timer on it that overrules the window down switch maybe that is explaining the reason that it works a few minutes when you open and close the door.

However the time that the window is working must be the same whenever you open and close the door again.

Luuk
J R K (Kenyon)
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Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 509
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 8:02 am:   

Luuk it could be the same amount of time. I would need to check.
There is relay switch inside the back hood. If flick the relay with my haand I can her the relay to the elctrical windows work.

The main problem with the passenger window is that it used to go up and down when the car door was open or closed while the igintion as switched on.
And now it does not not go up and down all the time when the igintion is on.

I can here the window relays clicking when you press the buttons..
Luuk Uiterwijk (Luuk__annet)
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Username: Luuk__annet

Post Number: 54
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 7:46 am:   

Gave it some extra thought, you car has an electric circuit that is switching the window down when the hood is released probably with an relay that is overriding the switch.

The few minutes that it works after open/close the door are they exactly the same in time or is it random?

Luuk
Luuk Uiterwijk (Luuk__annet)
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Username: Luuk__annet

Post Number: 53
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 7:00 am:   

Yes that�s him, first move it around a bit while pushing the down/up switch if it is a bad connector it should work now and then.Goodluck..

I'll don't no if this works but if it is an mechanic problem and not a electric and you have to disassemble you could swap up/down wires.

Luuk
J R K (Kenyon)
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Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 507
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 6:08 am:   

Luuk, Thanks for the advice.
Is the door connecter the big black plastic tube between the door hinges?
Does this twist and disconnect ?
Luuk Uiterwijk (Luuk__annet)
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Username: Luuk__annet

Post Number: 52
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 5:59 am:   

It could be the cable conector on the door I had a probleem with the door light it only lited when the door was half open if i moved the conector around a bit, everything was ok after cleaning the conector.
Try to let the window down and then move the conector a bit.


Luuk
J R K (Kenyon)
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Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 506
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 4:45 am:   

I have a problem with my passenger window on my 348 spyder. The passenger window will only go down when I open the pasenger door and close it.
It will not go down then after a few minutes.
Also, When you release the hood the windows should drop down slightly. The driver side window is Ok its the passenger that is faulty sometimes.
I have checked the achives but no joy for answer.
Any suggestions would be great...

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