It's a rare V12 Stradale!
I was looking to getting into a Stradale at the end of this year...reading this thread is making me think hard about this decision....last thing I want is spend that money....not knowing how sound the history of the car is.
I'd hardly let this thread stand in your way. There are many great cars that become available for sale. A majority of cars in this thread result from Sellers that have not disclosed information to potential Buyers. On a percentage basis of the whole, it's relatively small but something to be aware. Good luck.
RTGT just sold a sweet one for 203 w/4000 miles (approx.).... all black interior, no radio, leather seats
Aren't all Ferraris 12 cylinders?? Anybody here track their CS regularly and are willing to talk about it? (even by PM if you want) I'm really tempted by the CS right now, but I would want to track it. One thing I'm wondering about is the durability of the carbon rotors. I've read varying threads, some saying they'll last forever, some saying they only last X number of heat cycles on the track. Either way, it appears that replacing them and servicing the brakes is a $40K dealer job.
I have not tracked my car on a regular basis, but have taken it on the track several times. - carbon rotors. These wear out through heat cycles. From what I can tell they last a long time. By contrast even casual track days can ruin a set of steel rotors quickly. I managed to run through a set of steel rotors every weekend racing and about 3 months on other cars running more casual. Might want others to chime in here though - CS as a track car. First off..Every street car you take to a track is a compromise. While one car seems great on the street or even through curvies..they might not been as much fun on the track. Having said that a CS is great fun on the track. I find the suspension a bit mushy compared to the Challenge car I raced. But the more you make a car a "track car" the worse it is on the road. I dont think you can go wrong with a CS as far as track days go. If you really want to take a CS to the track alot, you may want to spare your future Ferrari the abuse a track deals out to get a Challenge car instead.
I have had 2 CSs. First one did 10 000 kms of track and the actual one am at 12 000 kms of track. The car is run on Challenge slicks (Pirelli D3s) and the only modifications are a modified geometry. Changed the discs this past winter for the first time (12K including pads and VAT at 20%) and have had one wheel bearing failure (350). Otherwise the car is AWESOME. As a comparison have had a Scuderia which is a good road car that you can use on a track (big diffenece) and I have a 430 Challenge race car. The CS is what comes closest to a racing car and it will put a smile on your face eveytime...plus there were only a few CSs built (not the case with the Scuderia), so the rarety value is worth keeping in mind. Here in europe CS prices are heading north big time..... A clean one will fetch 160K What is a heat cycle? The real secret is to bed in your pads correctly: 10 gentle brakings from 120 kph to about 90 kph, then 10 from 180 kph to 120 kph then 2 hard ones and then one or two whole laps WITHOUT touching the brake pedal and then leave the car till the brakes are STONE COLD. Then go for it!
Four rotors for only 12K€ (19K USD)? They are over 30K USD in USA. Peter, you have a CS and had a Scuderia. Do you mean the CS is better than the Scuderia on the track? Why? I am not a Scuderia fan so I'm genuinely interested in your reasons.
The car was not fixed with Stradale parts. He used a 360 front end and attached a new Stradale bumper. Used the seats and dash and windshield from the same 2001 360. He spent $29K on just those parts. Must have spent another $20K on all of the other parts needed to put it back together again.The seller did not do the work, so after you factor in the labor, he must have got the wreckage for under $50K. It's currently at $121 on ebay and has hit the reserve. FYI, Specialized Itialian Recycling will sell you a new CS bumper for $2,000.
Anybody know the story on this CS? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-FERRARI-360-CHALLENGE-STRADALE-YELLOW-STUNNING_W0QQitemZ220413689660QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3351adff3c&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 Limited carfax info. Registered in Fla, titled in NY. Now for sale in CA. Been for sale for quite some time. Love the yellow color scheme. I doubt many yellow CS's were produced for the US. Thanks.
FYI - Racing harneses were not an option in the US. These must have been retro-fitted, which requires welding the mounting brackets onto the aluminum body structure behind the seats. I would assume then the car has been tracked, but a little track duty wont hurt one of these.
There are several ways to fit the harness w/o welding into the rear shelf. Also, wouldn't assume anything without conformation. The ECU's will tell all.
Buyers beware... Two accidents for 136348 according to service records... one minor, one not-so minor IMO. Both were single car accidents and not disclosed on CarFax. FX Autobody did some nice work to repair this one. I was told recently by a dealer trying to unload this puppy, "paint meter only detected paint work on the front bumper". LOL!
I am looking at a CS in Clearwater, Florida belonging to an Fchatter. Name on here is Shuey2k. Anyone familiar with the car please send me a PM. JJ
As a result of these cars changing hands so frequently including the last 6 of the VIN may also help.
Andrew, thank you very much for this information! You are a guardian of the Stradale and its enthusiast! It certainly is. Jerome - I not only know the car, I know the owner...! The only thing wrong with that car is that it can't outrun a green Nissan Sentra driven by me in Southern Florida - but Schuey2K will tell you all about that.