X in Warning Display 360 Challenge Stradale

Recently got this X (Amber color) in the warning light Display and it won't go away. Can anyone shed some light as to what it could be. Owners Manual notes nothing about it. Thanks in Advance for any help!
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I WOULD RUN AS FAST AS I CAN......

 

I think that may be the reason why I got the warning!! Ha, Ha!

 

I think I should add that OBD Readers can not reset it, not even the dealer could reset it.

 

A warning like that tells me to not drive it anywhere let alone start it. Do you know anyone with an SD2/3 or Leonardos that can come over and give your ECU and TCU a reading?

 

There is a shop down the street that has the SD2 tool. Just a hassle cause I live in Japan. Does anyone know how to Hard reset the computer? Other than the 30 minute battery off method. I have a friend next door with the KESSv2 tool, will reflashing the ECU with the same original file solve anything?

 

I have this on mine at the moment, but it happened when i was fiddling with the wireing so i know its something I caused and of no concern ..... i believe an SD2/3 is the only way to cure it.

 

Had you a weak battery in the past days?

This symbol appears when the dash internal EEPROM has been corrupted. It could happen while trying to start the engine with a too weak battery.

It is not clear, from what I read, if the SD2/SD3 can solve that. If not, some specialized centers can reflash this parameters EEPROM with a valid content.

 

I will try the SD2 method tomorrow. I will keep you posted.

 

The car was sitting for 6 months before this happened. The battery is good now, but may have corrupted something in the instrument EPROM like you mentioned.

I reflashed both ECU's in hopes of some reset, but that didn't help. Is there a way to reflash the gauge cluster computer that anyone knows of? Maybe a firmware update?!

 

I wonder if running on a Dyno a few times will recalibrate the gauges...? anybody else think this might work?

 

Ahh yes.

I just dealt with this on a F430 manual.

After exhaustive research this is what I found:

The "X" is a condition that sometimes rears its head from a jump start (or perhaps a electrical spike). It looks like from above that others have come across it when dealing with an electrical mishap.

Nevertheless I found a reference to fixing the "X" by going into the instrument cluster section with the SDX tool and doing this:

Plug in the SD2, go under the cruscotto-cluster program. Now go to the parameters setup and its in there as one of the options where you can change the initial settings on the cluster. The X could go as soon as you change the country selected as it has defaulted back to factory specs. Just encase the tech using the SD tool doesn't know, tell him to go to those settings and this could be your fix. I've have read about more than 6 cars with this problem after people have tried jump starting their cars with jump packs etc.

Anyhow, a caveat for you.

So I tried to do this with the F430. I went into the cluster programming with the Leo tool. I did see that in the programming the car had several items that had gone back to base settings. The brakes had defaulted to Steel (it has ceramics), the fuel type to Leaded (its an Unleaded car) etc. But the Country was still shown as USA. I tried it anyhow and adapted the new parameters with fingers crossed. The Leo did change the Fuel & the Brake type but no matter what I could not get the "X" to go away. I must have changed that Country setting 5 times too, with no joy.

After speaking directly with Italy on this they claimed the system normally shows an "X" with reference to the F1 gear box (this car was a manual though) so I even checked all of the gearbox settings but again with no resolve. At that point we decided that I may have to send the cluster to the motherland to get that issue resolved.

Anyhow it gives you more to go on. Please report back with your findings once complete.

 

TheLeo tool doesn't remove the X with the country selector. Only the SD2 can do that do you better get your hands on an SD2. It's not a biggie at all. You can still drive your car as normal. It's only giving you a big X = kiss (xxoo etc)

 

@Michael B- thanks for all the great info. I was able to get my hands on a SD2 tool today, I told the technician what I was trying to do and he said that his SD2 tool will not recognize my cars Cluster Programming. Does that sound right? Do we need to update the Firmware On this SD2tool in order for it to recognize my Cluster Program?

@Georgescott- Thanks for the Heads up!

 

UPDATE--
So,I did some research and found the quote below in an Australian Forum...

"""---Thing is... for example, for 360 there are 8 different software versions that I'm aware of. I NEED 3 of them. SOME of them don't work with some types of TCU for example... you need year and model specific software... so having "360" software is not enough.... you need "specifc model 360 software"---"""

So now I know there is a need for updates, but these poor guys at this Japanese shop have no idea how to obtain these updates. Can anyone direct us from here?? Many Thanks in advance!!
My car is the 2003 360 Challenge Stradale- in need of the Cluster software.

 

You don't need the cluster software. It is only the EEPROM, which contains the configuration parameters, which has probably been corrupted. Some of those parameters can be checked and modified with a SD2 but it is not a guarantee that it can have access to all the EEPROM content and remove the X.

The fact that the SD2 cannot recognize your cluster is a different story and is most probably due to a misuse of the SD2 (wrong car selected, wrong SD2 software loaded, ...).

The TCU software (F1 gearbox) has evolved a lot on the 360, as well as the TCU hardware, and both need to be compatible. There is no need for software update, and there is no newer software available, for your CS.

 

What a Can of Worms this has been. I had to do some electrical repair to this SD2 tool before comfortably using it. The fuse holder had broken loose internally. Causing it to flicker on and off. Lucky for these guys I can fix these things with my eyes closed. After opening this expensive toy (first time from factory) I found that the only thing holding it down, other than the solder points, was a piece of tape. Wow, Did that get approved by Ferrari QA. Ha, Ha.. Check out the pic. I had to make some new custom tabs from wire and set it in with good ol JB weld. These guys were cool enough to give me the SD2 software discs. Will I be able to download the firmware flash or specific software for my gauges with that?
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@eric355-Thanks for clearing that up, our postings must have crossed. I will try now with a fully functional SD2 tool.

 

There's gotta be newer software than this. This looks ancient to me.
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Fixing the SD2 device, reading the manual and looking for newer 360 Specific software soaked up all my free time today. I will hook it up and have a go tomorrow. Hopefully eric355 is right and the EEPROM is accessible regardless of the model year software on the SD2 tool.

 

Even if there is newer software versions in would at least load on what I have just to remove the X(or may not) then drive to your ferrari dealership and get it looked at for a newer version.

 

There is a specific cable for the SD2 to communicate with the dash. You also need cable with CV225N on the plug to fit the SD2. You may find you can't reset the instrument panel through the OBD when it's in this condition without the use of the specific dash cable...

 

If you've read the thread this long, then you've missed the answer. Michael B was right all along. And it seems to work on almost all cars with the Multifunction Display. Just tweak a few things on the SD2 tool. I'll leave the tweaking to you.
Thanks Mike, tested with SD2 and proven to resolve the "X" problem.

 

My pleasure Louie.

Enjoy the season.

 

Any more members who recently had ths Cross ? And how did you solve it ?

SD2 or SD3 ?