512 TR / 512M Oil Filters: Best Place to buy?

I'd use a Baldwin B255, but I have never actually done that -- I didn't exhaust my supply of 124228 TR (UFI 2319202) oil filters before selling my TR. In fact, I still have 2 left over from my buy-of-5 from MaranelloClassicParts a few years ago (still in their yellow F boxes ) -- if someone in the continental US wants them for $180 total send me a PM (I'll pay for sending them USPS Priority Mail to you).

 

Well neither has the correct thread size for a 512 TR or a TR. I looked no further at dimensions etc. They will not fit. A 20mm x 1.5 will not screw on a 1 inch x 12 no matter how much someone wants it to.

 

My Indie uses okp/sgp

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The lack of direct cross references to 23.310.02 is obviously deliberate.

You're right. Needs 1-12

The ones mentioned in the prior threads are spot on - lots of choices there.
UFI 23.544.00 seems like a good one also and it's only about $10. Larger diameter than the Lambo 23.289.00

Btw - 23.310.02 is not even listed on Ufi's site.
23.310.00 is and cross references to F's 148404.

 

In most cases, where they can Ferrari gets exclusive rights to purchase, distribute etc.

 

Not too surprising that no one else makes a cross-reference for UFI 2331002 (148404) as, internally, it is a bit of an odd duck design (that didn't get adopted by the spin-on oil filter industry nor even continued to be used by Ferrari in their later spin-on oil filters) -- see this thread for details:

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/evaluation-of-512tr-oil-filter-ufi-2331002-ferrari-part-number-148404.648210/

 

Do you know what the differences are compared to 23.310.00? I think you mentioned the gasket in another thread.

In terms of price, that one where it shows up as out of stock since it's out of production, is about 30 bucks.


Re: the height - the UFI 23.544.00 is 111mm so it might be a better choice than the Purflux, and it's used in Astons, Bentleys, Rolls
and has lots of cross references.

https://shop.ufi-aftermarket.com/s/product/detail/01t09000004PKZeAAO?language=en_US


Anyone dissected the SGP equivalent? That one has been used long term and it'd be surprising if it had the UFI 'triple filtration'.

 

Don't know for sure, but, on other UFI spin-on oil filters:

.00 suffix = separate D-ring gasket
.01 suffix = better gasket, but they put spot welds in the bottom of the groove for the gasket, and this caused tearing/leaks
.02 suffix = more conventional G-401 gasket (like on nearly every modern spin-on oil filter)

Don't disagree -- it being used on big displacement Bentley/Rolls and Jaguar is a good sign that it would be OK on 512TR. It is a slightly smaller OD (which just shows how compactness has become a higher priority for the engine designers than total debris capacity lately IMO). Everything in the given dimensions is OK, but they don't give much else (nor even an actual picture).

However, in looking for a pic of it on the internet I came across a Baldwin B7424 that I like even better for a 512TR (or for a TR more than the Baldwin B255) because it has a larger body diameter (which implies a large area filter media), and it has a 20-psi Bypass Valve -- also stated to be used on Jaguar. It's 112.7 mm OD (so I tiny bit larger than the UFI) and 112.7mm long (so just a tiny bit longer), and has a lot of large inlet holes (which I like):

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Yes, there's ZERO chance that that filter (or any other spin-on oil filter on Earth ) has the odd internal structure of the 148404 512TR oil filter. Haven't ever examined one of those SGP myself, but that is definitely TR only (not 512TR) -- it's long.

Disclaimer: All JMO -- use any recommendations at your own risk.

 

Sounds better than the other Baldwin.

Looks like they have 2 versions:

https://www.superformance.co.uk/testarossa/eg.html
https://www.superformance.co.uk/512-m/eg.html

Anyway, there are a few good choices. An F dealer's not gonna drop a Baldwin in there, but if you do your own or an indie it's the same as a 308 filter.

 

Here's a 360deg of the 23.544.00 - and talk about cheap.

https://www.oscaro.com/filtre-a-huile-ufi-filters-spa-23-544-00-4120969-7-p#

 

At higher oil pressures, most of the oil is bypassing the filter. I believe this is correct?

 

Didn't realize that they had a shorter version for 512TR -- even though they printed "Triple Filtration" on the outer case, I'd still be very surprised if the internal structure actually matched the UFI (even the UFI does not have the "triple filtration" as described in their US patent, and is only a "double filtration" construction as shown in the teardown analysis). If someone ever wants to send me an old SGP for the 512TR (or the SPG for the TR), I'd be glad to cut it open and have look.

That price on the UFI 23.544.00 is very reasonable, and is what all UFI spin-on oil filters should cost .

 

Depends which "oil" you are talking about. Modern F use what's called a "full-flow" oil filter = all of the oil exiting the outlet fitting of the high pressure oil pump goes thru the oil filter before going to the lubricated parts of the engine; however, just before the outlet fitting of the high pressure oil pump, there is a relief valve that dumps (unfiltered) oil directly back into the sump if the (usually cold) oil pressure is too high (but this unfiltered oil never goes to the lubricated parts of the engine).

 

Sounds like @flash32 may have some SGP's.

 

Next service will send / or open myself for sure .. maybe a while though - curious myself to see

 

So is this the oil routing on the TR? What Ferrari engines have this feature?

 

I think about all of them after the early 1970s used a "full-flow" oil filter layout with an upstream relief valve (if not even earlier). I think some of the earlier F cars had a different system with a full-flow filter and a separate "fine" oil filter that only got say 10% of the oil flow diverted to go thru it, but that's just foggy recollection of earlier discussions.

 

MCP have the exclusive use on the Testarossa and TR filter as they paid for the development of it. UFI will not supply this on the aftermarket.