Max Verstappen

Yes, it's been confirmed by Ben Sulayem himself ... this year ... that Masi wasn't fired. Instead, Masi quit. Several articles and discussions on this topic, months ago.

https://www.grandprix247.com/2023/01/11/ben-sulayem-toxic-social-media-caused-masi-to-quit-f1-race-director-role/

This is old news, by now. Let me guess ... the Hamilton cult is trying to re-write history, again??

 

From another thread (months ago) ...

 

I read that. Then read it again. Then read it again. No where do I see he was fired because of social media.

"Since that night, Ben Sulayem as President has been tasked to sort out the F1 race direction"
"Thus to sort out F1 ‘refereeing’ problems, two RDs were assigned to the role"

Let me say it again for the people in the back.

""Thus to sort out F1 ‘refereeing’ problems, two RDs were assigned to the role"

He didn't say he made changes because of social media problems. He said ‘refereeing’ problems.

Next he mentions these changes came after there were "human errors".

Let me say it again for the people in the back.

Next he mentions these changes came after there were "human errors".
Not social media errors. But "human errors".

Then he said:

“You cannot just have one race director and rely on them.' What if something happened? If we are going to sustain motorsport, we have to be ready with training"

He is not talking about social media training. He is talking about race direction training.

What Ben is saying is that Masi left the organization (not director role) because of social media . Which is his choice.

 

In all fairness to the Hamilton fanboys, the fiction that "Masi was fired" needed to be cultivated in early 2022 ... so that a certain sulking driver would return to the sport

Many of us recognized mid-way thru 2022, though, that something was amiss with that fiction ... when MBS openly declared that the door was wide-open for Masi's return to F1 !!

And, finally, MBS more recently confirmed what we already knew ... Masi wasn't fired at all, but rather quit.

 

Stop using your words. See my post above for Bens words.

 

My homework. LOL. Your need to talk down to people is concerning. I guess it's become a natural reaction for you. I've been on this forum a long time trying to have discussions about F1 or just read other F1 fans thoughts as I am in America and don't exactly run into F1 fans everyday. Seems like a lot less of that goes on around here anymore. And you're a big reason for it. I have no homework. So GFY.

 

Oh my lord…
Quit….fired… who cares? He’s gone.

 

You're too sensitive on these forums man. Best to not post here imo. Ive read way worse than what you are describing, not even in the same ballpark.

 

Wrong. I banned you last year for trolling. You have also been warned yesterday for similar behavior. Given your conduct in this thread, enjoy your weekend off.

 

+1 perfectly expressed Sir Alex Weaver.

 

At least he didn't got ROBBED like Massa....he just lost to a better driver, fair and square...

 

Massa was not robbed, I disagree with that.
Not wanting to start another stupid discussion/argument, etc, but I disagree.

Rgds

 

Not sure how not applying the rules correctly is not being robbed, but I guess your prejudice gets the better of you every time.

(Not that VER is not a worthy or deserving champion).

 

Thank you. Sick of hearing the petty bickering it's pointless and doesn't change anything except keeps the thread active during summer break.

 

Right chaps - here's to a nice relaxed weekend for a change! PHEW

 

The rest of us certainly will.

 

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In the final report written by the FIA, they admitted that the rules were ambiguous ... "open to interpretation" i believe is the direct quote (which is why the rules were re-written for 2022). So any thought of "not applying the rules correctly" simply does not apply. The rules were open to interpretation, and the individual given the "power to interpret" in the heat of battle is, in fact, the Race Director.

As far as anyone being "robbed" ... the title was not taken from someone and given to someone else. Instead, the drivers were allowed to race. That's it. No one knew the outcome, the outcome was not pre-determined; the outcome would be determined, on track, by allowing the drivers to race ... just as all teams agreed to do before hand (if it was safe to do so).

 

We agree to desagree, all is good...except for felipe

 

When can Max Verstappen become 2023 F1 World Champion?

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/215877/when-can-max-verstappen-become-2023-f1-world-champion.html

 

Of course it was! One driver 'raced' on brand new tyres having been completely trounced for 90% of the race, whilst the other was a sitting duck on race old tyres! It was a complete farce as anyone who has just been watching F1 for more that 10 mins well knows!

(You may hate HAM and wanted VER to win, but that doesn't make it right).

I don't really care who is/was WC but to say this was 'sport' is just completely wrong.

 

EVERY team had the chance to pit, so why should the recent pit strategies of the teams factor into the Race Director's decision to allow the drivers to RACE? It would be ridiculously unfair to deny the fans and the teams the chance to RACE (if safe to do so) simply because one team failed to put on fresh tires.

Imagine what you're suggesting ... "Well ladies and gentlemen, fans around the world, we'd like to offer one more lap of racing for the title ... but one of the teams chose not to pit, so no more racing for us, then." Makes no sense for one team's choice (not to pit) to dictate the outcome.

(Please remember ... at the moment of the crash, the FULL expectation of EVERY team was that the race would end under green. Two reasons why: first, the number of laps remaining was greater than the average safety car interval at that track, by 1~2 laps. Second, the agreement by all teams to finish under green if at all possible, if safe to do so. YES, green finish was the expectation, by ALL teams, at the moment when the pit decision needed to be made. Listen to the radio transmissions long before Masi made any unlapping decisions, and you'll hear Hamilton express his extreme concern that Mercedes failed to pit ... the mistake was obvious, even to Hamilton).

Again ... the Race Director didn't rob anyone, didn't gift anyone. He simply allowed the teams to RACE for the finish.

 

I agree with that. The end of the race at Abu Dhabi was a complete farce, IMO, caused by the incompetence of an official.
Even the FIA came to that conclusion, hence the reshuffle that followed, even if some still argue that Massi wasn't dismissed.
What made me accept Verstappen as the WDC though, wasn't the result of the last race, but the improvements he made all through the season. At the end of the day, I felt Max deserved the title more than Hamilton. He drove better all year, made less mistakes, and on a car that wasn't the best, I thought. A worthy WDC.
All season, Hamilton, and Mercedes, started to make mistakes and lose races, which was rather uncharacteristic of them, perhaps as a result of fatigue for both the team and the driver. Baku was an exemple.
It's water under the bridge now, and I think we should stop bickering about it.

 

I think it will be best to just move. It's already 2 years now.

 

I agree with that