Voting Is a few a days away

MuJo....

I hadn't seen the final seat count........but I guess my mistrust and dislike of both parties will always rule my judgement.

In Brasil they have mandatory voting (my wife is from there) and we should have it here as well or it's really not a democracy. But something inside me says that the left wing in this country would never let that happen, as it would mean their ultimate demise over time I think.

What happened yesterday........1/3 of 1/3 of the total eligible voters elected Martin........that is the greatest crime of all.

As for immigrants......well my wife is one.....and she has never felt more lied to by the Liberal government here than anywhere else in her life. I agree with you and Big Red when it comes to the Liberal manipulation of newcomers and their apparent pandering to this group for mere political power.

And....while we are on it.....they are letting in the wrong kind of people from the wrong countries. There's no other way to put it......color and race does not come in to play here......my statement is not about that at all......it's about the politics, mindset, ethics and backgrounds of these individuals.

 

Big Red, I agree with you 100%. I am not an immigrant, but I am hard working and we are way over taxed, which I believe is part of the reason for the 'brain drain' to the U.S.
IMHO of course.

 

The point I was trying to make (apparently unsuccessfully) was that all conservatives are worried about badly planned immigration and the abuse of our refugee policy. Everyone knows that the Liberals play to those who abuse this country’s generosity. Everyone also knows that we are all wildly over-taxed so the Liberals can waste our money and pay off the countless special interest groups that vote for them.

I just happen to believe that it is possible to discuss the topic without falling into mindless racism. The kind of mindless racism that ensures that the Liberals will keep on winning.

 

So do I Joe.....the problem is.....the liberals scream racism the moment you touch their "sacred cow" of voters.....regardless of how intelligently and carefully you word the issue.

Which is why it is time IMHO for conservatives to start attacking relentlessly and with vicious words and aims, rather than constantly defending with polite phrases. Let's take the gloves off and divide this country up.....then see how they like it.

The high road is closed due to intellectual potholes.

 

Keith and Rick - Good points. I see we are on the same page after all. Here is what concerns me. The thought of the Liberals and the NDP in cahoots to decide what happens to this country and our tax dollars truly makes my hair stand on end. If we thought that AdScam, Shawinigate, HRDC, the gun registry, Dept. of Indian Affairs etc. ad nauseum were/are bad…..I mean my God the NDP wants $10 billion for 10,000 wind turbines across Canada. Can you even fathom the waste that will entail?

When you read about why so many (relatively speaking) of our sheep-like countrymen voted for the Liberals, the one thing you keep seeing is that they were aware of Liberal corruption but were "more frightened by Harper's hidden agenda". To me, this illustrates two things: 1) The Liberal smear campaign worked (the hypocritical bastards) and 2) Harper and his team were incompetent in their rebuttals. (As an aside, the genius who came up with the "Paul Martin supports kiddie porn" angle needs to be fired asap.) Ralph Klein certainly didn't help the cause either.

I could have devised a more effective ad campaign and I'm not even in the business!

What is the general assumption re. the Reform Party, Alliance and to a great degree the Conservatives? That they are redneck racist maniacs. There have been a few clowns who over the years have bolstered this image but for the most part, it is a false assumption (as we all know).

So my point (apologies for the meandering) is we can't talk about immigration in broad, general terms, e.g. "all immigrants are criminals on welfare who use up our health care resources". We know who the bad apples are, we know where they are (usually) from. They make a mockery of our entire judicial system and use our own Charter as the club with which to beat us over the head (Thanks Trudeau). Instead, we need to calmly point out that quality immigrants are good for the country (i.e. the ones who want to work, obey the law and assimilate) but the ones who come here to collect welfare and participate in organized crime with the full protection of the Charter need to be shown the door (or preferably not let in at all).

I know (and I assume everyone else does as well) plenty of great immigrants of every colour who came here for a better life and made something of themselves. I just don't want the discussion to become a white vs. non-white issue, which is exactly what the Liberals want.