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  1. marcos

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    #1 marcos, Jan 2, 2004
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    Second try…

    It seems nobody knows an answer to my questions…? So I’m going to try it again.

    Can anybody tell me something about the 550 Barchetta? What I’m looking for is the Specific Power (…HP/Litre), what type of clutch it has, the gear ratio and the type off electric system it’s got.
    I was also wandering if the suspension is the same as the Maranello?

    If you have an answer, let me know.

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  2. ze_shark

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    In my humble knowledge, everything except
    - the wheels (modular wheels were standard)
    - the seats (the sport seats were standard)
    - the body (convertible of course)
    is the same as a 550. No engine or gearbox change I am aware of, but I am no specialist on the matter.
     
  3. marcos

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    I also thought so, but the 550 Barchetta has a top off 300 km/h (186 mph) and the 550 Maranello a top off 320 km/h (199 mph).
    There’s got to something different?
     
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  5. Doody

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    what's the confusion?

    that's 186mph for the barchetta (whose canvas, snap-on top is NOT to be used over 60mph or something like that - so by definition that's 186 "open"); and 199mph for the 550 maranello, available in coupe form only.

    makes total sense vis-a-vis aerodynamics.

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  6. Schatten

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    Sort-of. The only difference is there's no roof top. There is a hardtop, but pretty much, it is always open air. There's no soft top, nor way to change it over easily, unless you purchased the hard top and put that on there.
     
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  8. Willis360

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    I think what Schatten meant was that an aftermarket hardtop (very ungainly one at that) can be purchased for the Barchetta.

    The emergency softtop, for the times you get caught in the rain, is good for 70MPH according to the factory.

    Outside of some structural reinforcement, the barchetta is pretty much the same as a standard 550.

    There is a company in Milan that will convert your Barchetta into a "Spyder" by adding a fully functional convertible top.
     
  9. F1racer

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    -It has 485 bhp like in the 550 Maranello....
    -Only 448 Barchetta ever produced.
    -Top speed = 186 mph compared to 199 mph in the 550
    -The interior is pretty much the same.
    -When the top is down you could only reach a topspeed of 68 mph.
     
  10. amenasce

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    U meant when the top is on.
    Without the top ( or emergency top ) it can go top speed.


    Its a barchetta , so it was meant to be used without any top. The top that comes with the car is for emergency use only ...as its the case with every barchetta bodied cars.


    Later a german company offered a Hard top for the barchetta..
     
  11. zjpj

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    Usually they stiffen the chasis, so, convertibles are usually heavier than their hard top counterparts. But in this case, both models weigh the same. So, weight doesn't explain the top speed difference.
     
  12. Doody

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    i'll bet dollars for doughnuts that aerodynamics explains the top speed difference. coupe -vs- no-top has to have a wildly substantial effect on the aerodynamics.

    doody.
     
  13. rodsky

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    Absolutely agree - its completely aerodynamics that will account for the difference.
     
  14. AnotherDunneDeal

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    One difference is that the windshield rakes just slightly more and is about 1" shorter than the 550. If you will look at the framework around the windshield you will notice that it only goes up about 1/2 the way to the top of the windshield on the outside. A tall person will notice this as the field of vision is slightly decreased.
     
  15. mjgermane

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    My vote makes 3 of us. I would be floored if it was not aerodynamics/drag that kept its top speed down.
     
  16. Casey_A

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    You will always see top speeds listed as such:

    Gear limited
    Electronically limited or
    Drag limited

    I believe the massive amount of drag caused by an open top would account for that loss of 12 or so mph.

    Infact I am certain of it.
     
  17. marcos

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    Okee, so the combination of aerodynamics/drag is the main cause…

    …in fact I could have thought about it myself. I just thought the top speed difference was too big, so there had to be another reason.
    I think they did stiffen the chassis, but the weight is the same, because they “cut-off” the roof. Barchetta and Maranello both weight 1690 kg.

    I only have one question left; does the 550 have a single plate clutch or twin-plate clutch?

    By the way, nice site you got there Alain.
     
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    LOL yeah ..wrong word
     
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    When the top is on you could only reach a topspeed of 68 mph.
     
  23. labcars

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    Willis - I thought the conversion company converted 550 coupes into spyders? Do you recall their website?

    Just to be clear----I AIN'T CHOPPIN' THE TOP OFF MY BEAST!!
     
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